Massive Backlash Building Over Windows 10 Upgrades

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  1. The Freezer

    The Freezer Just this guy, you know Staff Member

    Another fine mess: Some Windows 7 and 8 users are now disabling critical updates on their systems and would rather chance a malware infection than face the prospect of involuntarly upgrading to Windows 10.

    "By pushing it on users in such a heavy-handed way, Microsoft is encouraging users who have very valid reasons to stick with Windows 7/8 to perform actions that leave their machines open to attack," writes PC World's senior editor. He adds that "Over the past week, I've received more contact from readers about this issue than I have about everything else I've written over the rest of my career combined."

    "I fear some segment of consumers will turn off Windows Update as a result,” Wes Miller, research vice president at Directions on Microsoft, told him. “Which is a very bad side effect."

    Now even China's official news agency is reporting that users are angry about stealthy Windows 10 upgrades, saying over 1.2 million complaints appeared on one microblogging site. It quotes a legal advisor with the Internet Society of China, who says Microsoft "has abused its dominant market position and broken the market order for fair play," saying that lawsuits would be justified over Microsoft's action. "Yang Shuo, a worker at a Beijing-based public relations company, told Xinhua that the sudden update interrupted his drafting of a business plan and led to a meeting cancellation for a deal worth 3 million yuan ($457,735). 'Just because I didn't see the pop-up reminder does not mean I agreed.'"

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  2. pacav69

    pacav69 Live long and prosper Staff Member

  3. Trouba

    Trouba Administrator Staff Member

    I thought in China even the government and military use pirated copies of Windows -- in which case I can really see why they would hate upgrading even more :D
     
  4. pacav69

    pacav69 Live long and prosper Staff Member

    In the begining they were until ms come to the country and started having talks with the government to start squshing the pirated copies and making them ligit.
     
  5. Trouba

    Trouba Administrator Staff Member

    Funny how the number one industrial nation on the earth had to be told they cannot use pirated copies of software for their government and military.. Something really wrong when that happens.
     
  6. The Freezer

    The Freezer Just this guy, you know Staff Member

  7. Trouba

    Trouba Administrator Staff Member

    If you look at China's deficits where it comes to human rights and its (true backstage) political leanings... to have them increase their military spending significantly in the last few years and doing provocative fly-overs in territories that the US have traditionally been flying over and saying "well you do it, so you can't tell us anything" is just craziness. They definitely have an expansionist agenda as in the last half century or so they have already staked claims in several territories both on land and water (Tibet for example) and it doesn't look like it's slowing down any time soon. I have a Vietnamese friend who told me they have been at war with China over a 1000 years (really that long, China invaded them from 111 BC until 938 AD) and so they don't particularly like China -- good to hear stories from neighbors more than anything, I would say :) He also told me they have been trying to expand their ownership of Vietnamese waters quite recently as well. He fought against the Commies in his own country during the Vietnam war until he and his family left for the US. The Chinese government is very commie at heart still, they only pick and choose which parts of global culture and capitalism they like and discard the rest. They really still believe in the old Kingdom, which is the real drive behind their expansionist agenda if you ask me. Most people are driven by their subconscious, which means the past, and it also applies to cultures. Troubling.

    The war hawks in several US administrations have really weakened the US' presence and reputation in the world though, sadly. Stuff has happened that really should not have and it has made the US' position to argue on the basis of behavior and history very weak before countries like (even) China. Now we have Trump the buffoon enticing anger and using words like "nuke" making matters even worse. Great power and great responsibility really do go hand in hand so the US cannot lose their grip on both.
     
  8. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    Religion and Army's are the two biggest excuses for one group of people fighting against other groups to prove they are more superior or right or worthy than the other. The worst part of it is they fight over land/waters and end up making it unlivable for both through pollution/damage and/or the insecurity of obtaining it against a group they can not annihilate so retaliations continue for centuries - and why do they want more land than they need to live, produce,cultivate and run livestock? Money/Power, but why? I have not been able to figure that out - greed maybe? We are one planet and one race, if we can not see that each of us has the same value then we can only hope a good AI will take over and put people in their place, to be nourished, comfortable, useful/needed and perhaps be humble to the needs of others for a change.

    I really do hate seeing rich people talking about life struggles and how their way is the best way because it worked in their conditions, most of it is luck, if your born at the right time to the right people in the right place you can have more influence over others and get yourself a complex if your not careful and that doesn't go along well with a warped reality.

    Slightly off topic, but maybe not if Cortana turns out to be the dominating AI that controls us all :p
     
  9. Trouba

    Trouba Administrator Staff Member

    Distribution of wealth is also a problem. Talking about rich people, when 1% control more wealth than the rest, the result is people seeing each other as competition rather than as fellow human beings working toward a similar goal. Which in turn plays toward a non-civil society (such as Trump is appealing to) and an obsession with armament and gates->fences->walls (like between the US and Mexico), etc. Not that I'm saying that money is a good system, but they say capitalism is the best we've got so far, basically because it supposedly and intrinsically keeps everyone "honest". If that were true, reality would bear some semblance to the ideal, when in fact we have a 1% now with as much or more power than the 99%. So obviously someone other than the 99% has been dangling that carrot.

    And yeah, a lot is circumstance. It is foolish to thump yourself on the chest because your country's army is big or something. It's like trying to be cool through the car you buy, when you very well know you had absolutely nothing to do with its design or production as a person. There's something to say for collective or cultural consciousness maybe, but then we're talking about contribution for that is how collective consciousness would be generated, and a consciousness that reflects upon the collective, well how is that contributing anything to that collective but its downfall? That's why all this rise in nationalism is really a sickness and a denial of global/planetary awareness as well as of the realization of our common humanity.

    I was going to say more but I'm tired, must be that cheap labor (charity work for the rich) wearing me out :D
     
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  10. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    LOL - cheap labor is everywhere, minimum wage shouldn't be a thing that exist, jobs that are not secure should also be abolished, if any person in the world had to stress about if they will have money coming in then how are the supposed to get a good night sleep to perform at their best.

    I noticed the tipping system creeping in to Tasmania recently and refuse to play along with it, so long as I can respect my waiter/chef/store clerks etc to do a good job and not drop, spit or otherwise contaminate my products then I will pay the agreed on price with their wages already added into it. It shouldn't add to the interaction/transaction at all, lets keep the guess work out of it and if someone want to make more money by flirting/talking can become a prostitute, escort, self help or motivation builder - I mean there is already whole industries of people trying to profit from that so why should it interfere with me getting a good meal etc :p
     
  11. Trouba

    Trouba Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, the thing with tipping is that it can always be done, unless the establishment itself has rules against that sort of thing. Then again, there's the possibility of an unwritten rule taking hold, kind of like a peer-pressure to tip, in which case you will be guilt-tripped into tipping :)

    In the US the restaurant owners and chains pay the waiters low wages with the anticipation of them getting tipped, which means the waiters actually have to rely on being given tips or they will not be able to make a normal wage. Then at buffets you are not required to tip the waiters as usual (who, in those type of establishments only bring you drink and cutlery) but the customary thing is still to leave like $2 at the table for them. Anyway, the restaurant owners are basically delegating the cost to the customer for their employees' wages, because I don't think the prices on the food are any lower with the tipping practice in place. One thing you have in the US is free refills on drinks, whereas in Europe you have to pay for each drink, would you drink more than one glass.

    Once I ordered 7-Up or some non-caffeinated drink and the waitress looked at me and told me she figured I was "that kind of person." I then thought she should be glad I wasn't jacked up on caffeine at that point :D She then proceeded to talk about boyfriends and physical ailments at which point I looked at her rather penetratingly and said "THANK YOU." Gawd.. that was horrible. Her talk actually ruined my appetite, it was way TMI on several levels. I just hope for her that she wasn't trying to be charming :D
     
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