Should I include WinRE in LastOS installs?

Discussion in 'Misc Discussion' started by Glenn, Jun 5, 2023.

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Remove it to make the install.esd smaller and faster to install?

Poll closed Jun 12, 2023.
  1. Yes - Kill it

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  2. Keep it in as any Recovery is better than none.

    50.0%
  1. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    C:\Recovery\WindowsRE\WinRE.wim

    it's 591mb and doesn't compress. it is what allows you to do a startup repair or System Restore etc.... The thing is I disable System Restore in LastOS tweaks, is this file wasting time installing and taking up HDD space on C: that could otherwise be used for other things?

    I have used it myself about 7 times since windows 8.0 and it was only successful twice, apart from that I use my SavePE's to do the tasks better.

    I am just curious if others use it often and if it would be missed if I fully remove it from Last11's future releases.

    Please let me know as I personally don't ever use it so can't make the decision uninformed.


    -EDIT-

    I was thinking maybe I could replace it with a Full SavePE instead, but is that just weird?
     
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  2. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    I am also asking if I should do this on PC's I install for other people? would you leave it out to save time/space?
     
  3. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    BTW, another way to kill it post install is to open a admin cmd and type "reagentc /disable", this will move it to C:\Windows\System32\Recovery (hidden) but accessible for Admin - unlike when it's enabled in C:\Recovery\WindowsRE, there it's untouchable (except during sysprep).

    On another note, if you replace the winre.wim with a LastOS boot.wim (renamed), it'll copy the new PE when you run "reagentc /enable" to re-enable it again once replaced :)
     
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe this will work as a solution if I did remove it?

    This is it's description:

    This will scan your Disks of your computer for X:\sources\boot.wim and replace the Default Windows Recovery Environment with it, make sure to only have a LastOS installation disk inserted (not even a Standard Windows ISO/DVD) or it will only install a Windows Setup OS and not a recovery environment at all.

    -EDIT-

    Keep in mind, LastOS PE's actually come with Windows Recovery Environment in the - System menu in the PE, so it still does what the default one can.
     

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  5. pacav69

    pacav69 Live long and prosper Staff Member

    My thoughts are as follows:
    The day that you remove something the next day you need it.
    If you have a winre on an external usb chamces are that you can't find it.

    There was an instance that i did an win update and when it rebooted it got into an infinite loop and failed to restart correctly the only way was to go into a recovery mode and restore the OS to the last known good restore point.

    If people reinstall win on a regular basis on the same computer then removing winre will make little difference.

    With modern day computers having large capicity hdd/ssd the saving is insignificant but on lower capicity computers where space is at a preimium then every kilobyte counts.

    So it is all about the size of the hdd/ssd and if you spend a lot of time installing windows on other peoples computers then time is money as they say.
     
  6. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, I am thinking of leaving it in and it would only take up to 2 minutes to install, I can manually remove it if ever I need to and after I made the way to put my LivePE in it's place, I think it would be good to have access to my toolset for repairs - without me needing to cart my USB sticks with me :)
     
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  7. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    I'll release one build without it as I have also removed most UWP apps etc to make this build very light to install. I'll include the ability to install my PE and hopefully it all goes to plan, I am not sure I'll get feedback or if anyone else actually uses my OS Full time anymore- or if they just install it out of interest in VM's or old hardware, but don't daily drive it or what.

    I am quite happy with all the changes in the Last11_v4 build I am making, but I can understand people who work different to me may prefer to keep a more vanilla OS. So in that vein I will give a new release a go with all my personal preferences and any feedback will change my future releases. I mean, anybody with access to LastOS's has a LivePE to boot to if they choose to use it, so hopefully the default menu and safe mode will work for 99% of peoples problems anyway as I stated, I don't enable System Restore in ANY OS beginning with Windows 7. so not much use having Recovery menu's if not backups were performed.
     
  8. Glenn

    Glenn Administrator Staff Member

    New PE and Default Wallpaper I am including, with the optional Empty one at the very bottom. I quite like it - even if it is my own art and I can only see the defects

    PEBackground.jpg Wallpaper-Wide.jpg Wallpaper-Wide-Empty.jpg
     
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  9. chevy350

    chevy350 New Member

    voted but installs usually go pretty fast anymore, wallpaper looks awesome as well :emoji_100:
     

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