Win10 - Store Add-ins & Modern Apps, Etc

VM's are exempt from activation. if you emulated a VM in a real system you can run it for free

 

I'm curious if anyone knows anything about Windows 10 IoT Core / Core Pro or tried to do anything with it? From what I can gather it requires a Win10 workstation/tablet using an internet connection to even install it ...?

I'm guessing it won't have a whole lot of "junk" pack-ins; but I'm also wondering if it only runs strictly Universal Apps (UWP's) like some of the Surface RT's or if can run any desktop apps

 

It can run Desktop apps, but not x86 compiled ones, you need to compile your code to run on ARM chips, in other words you would have a LOT more code/software if you use Linux or Android OS's than WIoT, I am not even sure UWP's will all run as it is made for raspberry PI's and very low end hardware, The example I saw ran a top bar, but not a start menu. Not much info out there tho - even youtube is sparse.

 

Yeah, that was my take away as well.

I did not know about the ARM issue. I know Intel made the Atom x86/x64-compatible. I was hoping there'd be some (useful) connection though.

Raspberry Pi. Odd you mention it. That's exactly why I was taking a closer look at Win10 IoT.

 

Embedded sucks for regular desktops, not sure for any other usage BTW I think NTLite has support for embedded as well, so that might come in handy if you need to customize the image for Raspberry Pi.

 

http://repo.lastos.org/Gamers.Runtimes.Lite_v2.2_ssApp.apz

http://repo.lastos.org/MS.Visual.Runtimes.AIO.Plus_2019.01.09_ssApp.apz

http://repo.lastos.org/DirectX.Runtimes.9.0c.Complete_v9.29.1962_ssApp.apz

Install the above in that order and then reboot, then 99.7% of games will work for you. IMO it's just missing runtimes and directx files that cause most games to fail (same for WINE on linux)

 

Did some more digging on the ARM issue, and found this:

 

Did you read this? https://answers.ea.com/t5/Medal-Of-Honor-Games/General-Protection-Fault-Moh-EE/td-p/4566604

Not sure if it applies and it's from a while ago, but it may not be particular to LTSC

 

I just find it amazing how MS has been failing so badly, and we've all been telling them these very things about Windows RT from the beginning, as well as Start Menu, interface, Store, etc... As you article states:

EDIT: by the way, we shouldn't mince words: when MS tried out RT, that was in fact them acknowledging that Apple's approach to iOS for tablets & phones was the correct approach -- yet all the while MS' official stance had been that they waited to bring full desktop capability to mobile devices and that this is how they explained their wait game. They were acting typically OS-centric, when the fact is that the tech is driven hardware-centric. He who hath ears to hear...

 

I like the direction MS has gone with this, it worked for dos based things via cmd.exe and it worked for win16 in win32 and then syswow64 has worked for x86 .exe's in x64. Of cause converting x86 at the cpu level into arm will be quite a bit slower, BUT the speeds are still going up and multiple cores make the tech work better than a single core trying to so everything like old emulation had to deal with. I REALLY just want MS to partner with bluestacks to bring Android's store to their ARM chips, this would make life unbelievably better than any other platform (so long as MS's security features are up to scratch, sandboxing apps is the only way that really works now, there is no reason for any apps to have system wide access anymore and it's slack that so many still do). I hope they are able to get it to work on a x64 .exe eventually as x86 is a older tech now and should only ever be the stepping stone.

I don't believe MS are listening still, I think they just tried to use their own devices and realized nothing worked, they couldn't do what they wanted and nobody was "inspired", "excited", "anticipating" their ARM products ever. how bad is it that Surface RT was such good hardware for the time, but they limited it with a OS that had nothing exciting to offer and nothing useful would work. Their store has improved with desktop apps that are touch compatible etc being offered in the store as well as the less powerful UWP. It's not like app makers could keep their core and just build a new GUI, they required a full rewrite for yet another system, then the bugs would cripple users. It was a mess and many things still feel unfinished and lacking any polish IMO. Plus Windows 7 was beautiful and everything above is damn ugly still.

 

@Freezer, The article you quoted is from 2016 and talked about what was going to happen a few months after the article was published. So the questions are: did it happen, does it work and how well, and is it supported?

 

I'm not sure. I haven't read or heard anything that confirms this. I had switch tracks slightly to look into android emulation in Windows instead -- found Bluestacks, as Glenn mentions above -- but also another project using VirtualBox to run android. I imagine the virtual-hardware is using ARM; so perhaps installing Win10 on there in place of android might produce some answers.

 

Cool Also, in the LastOS10 builds we include a little utility by Microsoft called wushowhide.diagcab which is also referred to as "Show or hide updates" -- we made it so it is part of the System Tools cascading desktop context menu. It is better than WU at checking updates because it lets you preview available updates (and drivers) and allows you to choose which ones you want to "hide" so that when you go to WU proper after it, it won't automatically offer and install the updates you have chosen to hide. For example, you may not want to use Defender, Malicious Code updates, or a certain system update; so you can just set those to hide using wushowhide and after that run WU to get the updates you want.

You can get the utility directly from MS here.